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On the morning of August 29, the 2019 World Artificial Intelligence Conference opened in Shanghai. At the opening ceremony, Elon Musk and Ma Yun conducted a “double horse” dialogue, which is a scene around artificial intelligence, the universe, Science courses on issues such as education and human life.

The “Shuangma Club” did bring a lot of dry goods, but Musk and Ma Yun did not seem to be on a channel. As a good entrepreneur, there are always some disagreements when chatting with liberal arts and science men – and it is particularly obvious today. Bloomberg commented on the “double horse club”. “Compared with the erratic Musk, Ma Yun said that it makes more sense. Musk has inexplicably fallen into a bad tone.”

At the beginning of the conversation, Musk was a little nervous and didn’t know where to start. Ma Yun said, then talk about it from artificial intelligence, AI should translate “Alibaba intelligence”, the whole audience laughs and resolves the cold field. Ma Yun’s high emotional intelligence is undoubtedly revealed in this joke, and this is just an episode.

This conversation has caused great controversy, especially with regard to scientists and entrepreneurs, but in my opinion, Ma has given Mask three lessons.

Entrepreneurs must be innovative, but they must be responsible.

The first question that the two officially talked about is: Where will artificial intelligence go in the next 100 years, and how it fits into our present life.

Ma Yun said that I am not a technical coffee. I think more about life. “The future of AI is difficult to predict. In history, people’s predictions of 99.99% of the future have proved to be wrong.” He believes that people should have more confidence, and AI is not a threat. “Those who are worried about AI, I call them people who are trained by universities, and those who come out of our social universities will think that AI is good.”

In the first two days of the Zhibo meeting, Ma Yun also emphasized that AI should be translated into machine intelligence. The smart world has three elements: “Internet, big data and cloud computing”: the Internet is a production relationship, cloud computing is productivity, and big data is production data. The future will be Internet big data and big computing of these production relationships, productivity and production materials.

He said, “We should not be afraid that innovative companies will become giants. We should be worried that the giants will not innovate. All big companies are not big in market value, not large in scale, but have great responsibilities. Only companies with great responsibilities can go. farther”.

Muske responded that most people generally underestimate the power of artificial intelligence, but in fact artificial intelligence may be smarter than the smartest. “I saw that the biggest mistake AI researchers made was to assume that they were smart. They were actually not so good compared to AI. They felt that the machine would not be smarter than people. In fact, the machine is likely to be much smarter than people.” He said that he is not a natural optimistic or pessimistic person, but future technological development will transcend human ability to understand it.

For Musk, even if he is not a technology pessimist and has always been open to science and technology, his attitude is completely different when it comes to artificial intelligence. In fact, since 2014, Musk has been more pessimistic about artificial intelligence. He has repeatedly stressed the danger of AI. He even thinks that AI is far more dangerous than nuclear weapons. “I don’t think we will allow anyone to make it. Nuclear weapons, please remember my words again, AI is much more dangerous than this.

Ma Yun once commented on Musk. “He has something we don’t have. We also have things that he doesn’t have, but we all respect each other. I think this world should be different and beautiful, everyone should be different, some People are willing to go to heaven, some people are willing to go to the sea; some are willing to go east, some are willing to go west; some people like high technology, some people like business a little more. I like to use technology to change the way people live, so for many years, I I have never changed this, that is the love of life, I hope that technology will make human life better.”

The strength of the two horses’ perception of AI is actually not the difference between imagination or cultural concept, but the difference in industry extension and understanding. In the Internet industry, e-commerce, big data, cloud computing, and collaboration are the extension directions, but in the manufacturing industry, intelligence, automation, and manual replacement are the mainstream. But as Jin Yuliang, a teacher of the School of Social and Population Studies at Renmin University of China, said, “I want to be born with fear and work hard to create the future.”

AI is an extension of transcending human intelligence. It is certain to transcend human beings. But if it is said to be a Pandora’s Box, it is also the same as nuclear weapons. Blindly afraid of the harm of AI, technology will not have great development. Scientists know how to do things right, while entrepreneurs know how to do things efficiently and effectively, but only with the responsibility and innovation can change human society. This is the first lesson Ma Yun gave to Musk.

Humans need more “doers” rather than “dreamers”

Another topic about the “Shuangma Club” is about Martian immigration.

Ma Yun laughed at himself and just returned from Mars, wondering why Musk is so interested in Mars? He admires Musk’s courage to develop Mars, but he believes that instead of sending 1 million people to Mars, it is better to focus on the development of 7 billion people on Earth. Ma Yun believes that it is impossible for mankind to solve all future problems, but he must be responsible for the future. “We must pay attention to how life can now.