“We don’t want to divide globalization because of our conflict with the United States.”

This article is from HuaweiSound Community, the original title “Ren Zhengfei accepts the US Fortune Magazine interview summary”

任正非: If you dominate the world in many fields, it is not far from death

1, Alan Murray, CEO of Fortune Magazine: Thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us today. My main problem is related to the map of your bad plane. Does this picture reflect a short-term twist in the process of economic globalization, or is it that we are moving towards some form of decoupling, and this decoupling will have a major impact on the way the global economy and technology operate?

Ren Zhengfei: There is not much deep meaning in taking this photo metaphor. I just feel that many places have been injured in the process of the US entity list ban. If you don’t make up these “holes”, you may not be able to land safely by “airplane.” However, we have always firmly supported globalization, and we will never forget to fill in the “airplane” and forget to continue on the road to globalization. We are still waiting for approval from the US Department of Commerce, and US manufacturers are returning supplies to us.

But the longer this time drags, the worse it is for the United States. Because the United States is the most powerful technology country in the world, American technology companies need global markets. If there is a technology decoupling between the United States and the world, artificially cutting out a digital divide is a blow to advanced American companies.

Advanced companies like Microsoft, whose Windows and Office are actually monopolized in the global market, if the US government does not allow certain markets to use Microsoft products, there will be new alternatives in these markets. When alternative products are introduced, the market share of advanced companies is significantly weakened; when it exits from this market, the market gap is given to emerging companies. When there is no stone to hold the grass, the grass grows happier.

So, it should be that backward countries want to withdraw from globalization; it is not smart for a developed country to withdraw from globalization and abandon some markets. Therefore, I firmly support globalization.. When the US government changes its incorrect view, the speed at which we “fill the plane” will slow down or make up for it to maintain the interests of US partners.

2, Alan Murray: What about the other situation? If Huawei still stays on the “list of entities”, then US companies cannot sell to Huawei. In the short run, this will obviously cause losses to Huawei. If in the long run, for example, after five or ten years, what impact will it bring to Huawei?

Ren Zhengfei: In the short term, it will not have much impact. The US is most worried about the 5G to core network industry, we have no need for US parts. Only the ecosystem of end products will have an impact, but we believe that this effect will be completely eliminated in two or three years.

Alan Murray: Eliminate the impact by building Huawei’s own ecosystem?

Ren Zhengfei: Right.

Alan Murray: Is it possible to build your own ecosystem in the long run, which is a better choice for Huawei?

Ren Zhengfei: From the perspective of long-term development of the company, it may be a good thing. However, Huawei’s scale is growing more and more, and its fate can’t be grasped in its own hands, and it will be uneasy in the heart. We are firmly committed to globalization, but how can we survive? Therefore, it is best for us to establish ecological survival by ourselves, while not rejecting the ecology of others and supporting others’ ecology. If we have an agreement with the company concerned, we will insist on it if the conditions permit.

Globalization was proposed by the United States, but the United States is undermining the rules of globalization. I have always been pro-American, and have been cracking down on the emotional impulses within our company. I have recently issued a document again to support the internal service process. IT departments use “American bricks”, “European bricks” and “Japanese bricks” to build a “Great Wall” and do everything possible. To prevent internal employees from impulsively innovating on IT services to create an internal management IT platform. This is not only costly but also dragging down.

3, Alan Murray: You made a very unusual suggestion two days ago, saying that Huawei is willing to license its technology to American companies. As far as I understand it, Huawei has not done this in history. Huawei’s move is to alleviate security concerns. After your olive branch is thrown out, is there a US company to contact you? Do you think that there will be a US company to contact you in the future?

Ren Zhengfei: Let me first talk about why we should do this. We believe that the world has established a balanced technology ecosystem from the United States, Europe, China, Japan and Korea. Of course, this refers to a technical ecosystem that is different from Google’s ecosystem. Because the era of artificial intelligence is coming soon, the construction of fiber-to-the-home in the United States is lagging behind, such as